Pres. Obama defends the Mosque near Ground Zero

and all this chat goes to and through where?

assuming the funders of this building construction were involved in criminal enterprise? allow the "social club" to be built?

Hi Genug. People who are interesting in same topics

If this were the Gotti hunt and fish club, it would be shut down or bugged and surveilled, but still connected to criminal enterprise.

What make you think the builders of this project are involved in criminal enterprise?

Rauf is connected to Larijani, the iranian "Human Rights King" and nuke the US supporter. I met Riaf some years back - he a full out and out liar.

Rauf is somewhere "raising funds" amonsgt peoples and organizations at their own declared war with the west and the US - the Muslim Brotherhood for istance. - a terrorist groups declared by our govt. Hamas as well

Pretty sure there is pressure on both sides.

The head of the Cordoba org is some kid who was a waiter and piss poor about one to two years past. who is funding hom?

What pressure? either you support western laws and jurisprudence or you do not. The Constitution has no god in it - completely A-religious for a reason.

My point is: no one would have said anything if the Mosque was built in Chicago.

Making a point that 9/11 - Islam attack is completely wrong...

No one would care if the mosque was not funded by the Muslim brotherhood. There are mosques in the area already, and over 100 in NYC alone. No one cares as long as the funding is not terror funding

President Obama defends the project, not sure he would defend it if he knew it was funded by terrorist organisations?

These guys are terror guys - connected with the Trade Tower Bombers (1993) and really bad bad people. Google this and read through the whole "tome" : "al wala' w'al bara"

Obama does not know squat - he's dumb. AM I was a red diaper baby - google taht one as well. Wiki this crap.

I can't type.

Why these guys are still in the US?

google the nams of the supporters and tie them to the Muslim brotherhood - then read the court docs of the brotherhood and their "manifesto" and writings, - this is scary stuff - Islam is a political system with a religion used to subjugate and dominate. The caliphate is all. It's apocalyptic.

Because America is special - best thing in  about 2500 years. nothing like it and there truly is (or can be) freedom for all America is secular.

What about "normal" people, people who believe in Islam, making this kind of of comparison - 9/11 = Islam, is a threat for them.

As long as one does not enegage in overt acts of violence or criminal conduct, anything goes. penalities are either $$$ or prison or both. No cutting off arms, stoning to death, honor killings.

Those things don't happen in America.

And Islam doesn't say anything about that at all.

What you see as a majority is only 0.0000001% of the total of people who follow this religion.

I could say the same thing about all religions.

Sharia law is incompatiable with democracy. As long as non believers are being called kuffar and as long as dhimmitude and taqiyah exist, honor killings, admonitions to despise and kill jews and christians and take them not for friends, Muslims will be treated as enemies of the west, freedom, democracy, me and my family.

why adminitions to kill jews? explain "al wala' w'al bara please

I understand taht the word of Allah cannot be changed, correct?

I also hear that without physical jihad there is no Islam, this fomr clerics overseas.

I also hear that the word of Allah pertains forever and to all times, correct? from before to the future

So why take not the Jews and Christians for friends? and if you do, do you not violate the teachings of Allah?  And if you violate the teachings of Allah, do you not go against Allah and be damned?

so to what end this chat? and from where are you from comrade?

Sholem aleichem, y'all

Of course Sharia law is incompatible with "democracy". But it doesn't mean that if you go to the Mosque, you will stone to death or crash planes on the name of Allah...

Plus I'm Christian and have heaps of Muslims friends. Not incompatible at all...

You should watch this Genug:
 

True!

I think the Mosque SHOULD BE right at "Ground Zero" ALONG with a Church, and a Synagogue. They can put them North-South-East or whatever. But have them all there. (They're not building anything there anyway; for 9 yrs it's a been a tomb - a tribute to hell).   Since Al-qaida/Taliban hate any form of 'reconciliation' - having all 3 religious buildings at Ground Zero would be like an affront  to what they tried to do.

That would definitely the best answer!

Not sure that it would be possible tho'..

Great idea! I'm looking for the same thing to happen for Jerusalem: one "City of the World". City which should combine the 3 major religions..

Too much pressure on both sides made by "integrists" before something like this happens.

Nothing's getting built there. Only horrible memories. This is JUST what AlQaida wants. We need to stick it in their faces. AlQaida thinks THEY're Islam; they're not. They wanted to destroy American ideals; well, having all 3 religions at Ground Zero might let even the rest of the world see what we're truly about (And if the Buddists/Shintos/Hindus wish to be included - may it be so) THAT's WHAT AMERICA WAS & IS.

Hope you could be right... You should submit the idea to Obama.

You're definitely right on what "Al Qaeda" was looking for.

Here you are Infinitegal: how Ground Zero should look like

Great pic!